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salesynerd 4 days ago [-]
The EFF raises valid concerns regarding the abuse of security backdoors. As far as I remember, they and other privacy advocate have been doing so for the longest period of time.
Unfortunately, the real world will always fall short of the ideal one. Telegram and Durov are already facing this issue - where privacy ends and law enforcement begins.
trod123 4 days ago [-]
Not always, but it is rare in this day and age of ruin.
People don't realize that privacy is the right to not to be blackmailed, manipulated, or coerced by the highest bidder.
jeisc 4 days ago [-]
a back door should be the front door where the one who needs the information goes to the office of the information holder and accesses the information inside the provider's space with the proper court warrants.
unethical_ban 4 days ago [-]
Isn't this premature? Regardless of philosophy on government surveillance, there is no indication this was a "backdoor" or some mathematical weakness put in place by government.
A system designed to allow access to data is not by definition a backdoor.
g-b-r 4 days ago [-]
That's the definition of backdoor they use, and that's often used when other proposals of "lawful access" are discussed
A completely secret backdoor is unlikely to be safer than official "LI" are, anyhow
unethical_ban 4 days ago [-]
If someone sets up a VPN gateway to a secure system for law enforcement, and that VPN gets popped, do we call that a backdoor?
To me, backdoors are methods of access that rely on obscurity, mostly do to one or more parties being unaware of its existence.
If an ISP and government both know an access vectors exists and it uses standard protocols without known exploits, then that is not what I call a "backdoor".
g-b-r 4 days ago [-]
Well, a backdoor is more traditionally referred to be something secret, but if I remember correctly it's been routinely used for the overt LI things as well, at least since the "crypto wars" in the 90s
It sure is how the EFF is using the word in this article
dc396 3 days ago [-]
And in other news, water is wet.
Someone forgot to tell the bad guys to set the appropriate RFC 3514 bit.
Unfortunately, the real world will always fall short of the ideal one. Telegram and Durov are already facing this issue - where privacy ends and law enforcement begins.
People don't realize that privacy is the right to not to be blackmailed, manipulated, or coerced by the highest bidder.
A system designed to allow access to data is not by definition a backdoor.
A completely secret backdoor is unlikely to be safer than official "LI" are, anyhow
To me, backdoors are methods of access that rely on obscurity, mostly do to one or more parties being unaware of its existence.
If an ISP and government both know an access vectors exists and it uses standard protocols without known exploits, then that is not what I call a "backdoor".
It sure is how the EFF is using the word in this article
Someone forgot to tell the bad guys to set the appropriate RFC 3514 bit.